'HELLO, CENTRAL!' CAN COLLOIDAL SILVER BE USED FOR LUNG PROBLEMS? (Updated August 27, 2009)
Patrick H. Bellringer
Anne & Patrick:
Read with interest your information/articles on Colloidal Silver. Wonder if you have any information from anyone who has used it with lung problems.
a. Could C.S. be used in a nebulizer (as a mist) for inhalation into the lungs. This is to treat COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) to keep airways open and to
bring up much phlegm?
b. OR should a person just take it orally - such as several ounces a day (more or less).
c. Would there be any additional damage done to the lungs? I'm searching for anything that could improve lung capacity besides albuterol and pulmicort in addition to oxygen every day. The doctors have indicated that I have smoker lungs and that there is no known cure - only that it will get worse. I have never smoked but have worked in smoke-filled offices for years. FYI: I've lived in the north Phoenix, AZ area a long time and several years ago moved to a climate with more humidity. Would appreciate your comments/suggestions. Thanks for reading this e-mail.
Thanks again.....
Just ""J"
Mr. Bellringer please state what ppm you use for your one cup a day of CS. I use a Robi generator that goes to 80ppm. Is it safe to take a cup a day of 80ppm? We appreciate you and Annie every day, look forward to your comments. Do you know where to find food grade H2O2?
Thank you
Patrick is using CS (a cup a day). Is that safe, meaning what about your liver??? I've been told not to use more than 3 tea spoons a day?
Can you help me out here??
Thank you
Re:'HELLO, CENTRAL!' CAN COLLOIDAL SILVER BE USED FOR LUNG PROBLEMS? (Updated July 31, 2009)
Hello Patrick. This latest update to the above article has left me in doubt about collodial silver\'s use in combating swine flu. Seems I have read on Four Winds several times to take CS should you contact swine flu. I have read many articles which say it is not only an antibacterial but also an antivirus agent. However you say in y0ur latest post that it is only to combat bacterial infections. Would you be kind enough to clarify this for all of us?
Thanks again to you and Anne for all you do for life on this planet.
this is in response to 'HELLO, CENTRAL!' CAN COLLOIDAL SILVER BE USED FOR LUNG PROBLEMS? (Updated July 31, 2009)
Dear Patrick and Anne,
I recently purchased some colloidal silver nasal spray and I am really impressed by it!
Not only can i breath better and deeper, but I also now barely need to blow nose, and I can actually smell better too it seems. Being able to breath better definitely makes you feel like you have more energy. My sinus\'s are not clogged at all anymore, and i feel like any fluid that was in my sinus, third eye area, brain and ears is gone now. I don\'t know if it was allergies or something else.
My girlfriend was developing a sinus cold a few days ago and she tried the nasal spray and she felt completely better the next day.
I originally decided to try it out because I learned that staph bacteria lives in most peoples noses. I have been getting staph like bumps randomly for the past 2 years so i figured i would finally try colloidal silver seeing as how i will NOT take any \"antibiotics\" prescribed by some corporate brainwashed fool.
so far so good :)
thank you for all that you do :)
Love,
AM
Dear Patrick
I live in BC
Where can I get the CS generator and CS? Will this also help osteoarthritis?
Keep up the good work. You are loved and read by many here.
PA
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'Hello Centeral!' Can clodial silver help with advanced stages of Alzheimer,s -- time is short for my beautiful wife of 40 years.
I can not stand the thought of loosing her. PLEEEAAASE HELP.
Thanks and God bless you for all the great work you do .
D
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CS generator.
hello central.
I did a lot of research on making my own CS. Mainly on making my own CS generator.
I ended up with what I feel is the best design. The KEY facot on making a quality IONIC silver, is the amount of amps. the power amps, the better. Making IONIC silver, not colloidal silver. I am using a power supply of of a old answering machine, it is. 9 volts DC, and 400 MA\'s. i tried another power supply with 600 MA\'s, BUT higher DC volt\'s it was 12, or higher. And it made the CS faster, but when I shined the laser light through it, the size of the sliver particles were MUCH larger.
With the 9 Volt's DC, and 400 MA\'s, I can make a quart of great qualit IONIC silver in about 24 HR's. I shine the laser light through it, and only see very few silver particles. I have the Hanna Instruments Dissolved Solids tester, TDS1. I make my Cs at around 20 PPM. And still with the laser pen light. See very few silver particles. You say you make yours at 80 PPM. Is there a real benefit, by having more PPM? From 20 to 80 PPM??
I'm living on SSDI, that's why I search long and hard now day's to save money anywhere I can. so making my own CS generator, saved me some bucks. I made it for next to nothing. I had everything here already. Just purchased a Oz. of silver wire.
Firstly, thank you both for your dedication and hard work you do informing us every day. You have even answered my questions in the past. Thank you!
Now, on the latest Hello Central topic of CS and H2O2:
I had frequent sinus infections all my life. Sinus infections (for me) spread eventually to the lungs - and require a serious treatment and take a month or so to fully clear.
Last year, they were getting bad, every 2-3 months, and antibiotics were failing. I turned to Hulda's info, built a zapper, but it didn't help this (she stated it probably doesn't work in cavities / intestines of the body).
I then turned to H2O2 - and gave it a try by nebulize spraying the food grade / water mix into my lungs. Didn't seem to really improve.
Then I turned to high quality CS in a nebulizer starting late last year to clear my sinuses. Worked very well, where antibiotics were failing.
However, the damage to my gut was already done. I used too many antibiotics and I'm sure I changed the gut flora, which gave me a candida infection (and associated leaky gut - which causes my immune system to react to certain foods - mostly gluten and casein) - where I had NO problems with any food before.
Now, I've been on an anti-fungal through a specialist who at least recognizes candida/leaky gut (most docs do not) - and stated that if the "natural antifungals" (which I tried, along with the parasite cleanses) didn't work - that the anti-fungal drug would. It does. However, I'm trying to heal my gut flora and heal the leaky gut so I can eat normally again (gluten is in most everything - even in my asian diet). I'm now taking expensive pro-biotics (can't have youghart - it has milk) to try and do that so the candida doesn't take root again.
HOWEVER - doesn't the CS kill any probiotics?? some say yes, some say no. Yet I see that you can still drink milk - meaning your gut flora must still be fine! How can CS be a anti-bacterial/anti-fungal if it doesn't change the gut flora? Can you help me understand this part?
Which do you think (cs or h2o2) will help me with:
1) sinus infections that get past my initial CS nebulizer-in-the-nose therapy - and get DEEP inside the sinuses where nebulizer won't reach. Drinking CS and/or H2o2
and
2) help whatever might be wrong with my gut (without expensive testing, the doc and I can't be sure what might be down there - parasite, colitis causes by a bacteria) or candida still. and if CS and/or H2o2 won't HARM my gut flora???
I have done much research and even tried many methods - including CS and H2o2 - albiet not every way possible yet - ie, I was scared to drink the H2O2 - and even quit spraying it in my lungs - as it IS an oxidizing agent - and thought I might be doing more harm than good - especially since it seems the nebulized spray was doing nothing for my lungs!
Now, I see in your post you mentioned you used CS everyday - and I'm going to start doing that when I get a good (probably Robey) generator. But you mentioned using H2o2.
What do you use the h2o2 for - and what do you recommend each (cs and h2o2) is good for?
Thanks for helping me with any answers you might be able to provide!!!
Love and Light,
JF
I have read several articles about collidal silver and i was finally able to find some in a health food store
but it says to only take 1 teaspoon 3 times a day and i have read where some people take almost 1 cup a day
so i dont know if i should follow the direction on the bottle or should i be taking more?
Thank You,
Experts in Cat/Dog GI and Immune Disorders
Dear Patrick & Anne, I have been reading the questions back and forth to you from various people interested in Colloidal Silver and it\'s wonderful power to cure many things. You have given a list of the diseases/problems people have who are asking if these can be cured by CS. I would like to know if Cystic Fibrosis could be treated and cured with this wonder cure. I did not see that on your list. I have a friend who has this genetic disease and apparently can\'t be cured so the doctors say. Can you help with this one. Very many thanks and love and peace to you both.
MS
----- Original Message -----From: BMTo: BellringerSent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:32 PMSubject: Where did all these mosquitos suddenly come from?Dick EastmanI live in Yakima, Washington, a very arid place east of the Cascade Mountains. The great joy of living here is that there are no mosquitos. Except that a few months ago my wife complained that she was being eaten alive with mosquito bites. My daughter who lives in Moses Lake, about 100 miles away, also was the victim of unheard-of swarms of mosquitos. Now Yakima is experiencing an outbreak of West Nile virus, and St. Louis encephalitis (the equine version). Human infection, which causes encephalitis (inflammation of brain and spinal cord, destroying the nervous system), has occurred up and down the Yakima Valley in people from age 6 to 80. The virus has shown up in 20 horses, eight birds and 214 mosquito samples -- the percent of the total sample infected has not been announced by the county. One owner of a large vineyard has come down with West Nile virus and was hospitalized, suffering partial paralysis. One 4 yr. old quarter horse became paralyzed in the hind legs -- the owner cannot understand how the virus made it to this area. No standing water in this part of the state lasts for very long -- everything is river or irrigation -- except for the occasional horse or cattle trough. More cases, both human and animal, are expected. While many people contract West Nile virus and never know it, it is not clear how virulent this strain may be. I cannot imagine how a sudden intense attack of mosquitos -- as experienced by my wife and daughter and many other Yakima citizens -- has developed. I am not ruling out the possibility of bio-chemical warfare in conjunction with various other kinds of attacks on the US. (I know who cooperated in the September 11 false-flag attacks -- I know what they are capable of and what they are after.)
Dick Eastman <oldickeastman@q.com>
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FROM: Patrick H. BellringerTO: Dick EastmanDATE: August 27, 2009SUBJECT: ReplyDear Dick Eastman:The secret evil One World Order Illuminati are trying every means to win their goal in these final days of their Empire. Bio-warfare is certainly in their agenda.People need to use colloidal silver to destroy both the West Nile and the St. Louis encephalitis microbes in humans and animals. CS is both inexpensive and effective.In Love and Light,Patrick H. Bellringer
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----- Original Message -----From: JDSent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:53 PMSubject: CSHello Patrick,
I read your comments with great interest about CS. I know that it works with sinus infections from my own experience. How is it cleared from the body?
Also you mentioned that it is an anti-biotic. Young healthy people die from Flu from effects of cytokine storm- do you have any suggestions to help prevent this;
Thank you, JD
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FROM: Patrick H. BellringerTO: JDDATE: August 27, 2009SUBJECT: ReplyDear JD:CS is generally removed from the body by normal elimination processes. CS destroys harmful pathogens, so it is reasonable to conclude that it would combat theCytokine-storm health problem. CS has no known harmful side effects, so one would be wise to use it, if you were a victim of Cytokine-storm.In Love and Light,Patrick H. Bellringer
Cytokine storm
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A cytokine storm, or hypercytokinemia is a potentially fatal immune reaction consisting of a positive feedback loop between cytokines and immune cells, with highly elevated levels of various cytokines.[1]
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[edit] Symptoms
The primary symptoms of a cytokine storm are high fever, swelling and redness, extreme fatigue and nausea. In some cases the immune reaction may be fatal.
[edit] Cause
When the immune system is fighting pathogens, cytokines signal immune cells such as T-cells and macrophages to travel to the site of infection. In addition, cytokines activate those cells, stimulating them to produce more cytokines. Normally, this feedback loop is kept in check by the body. However, in some instances, the reaction becomes uncontrolled, and too many immune cells are activated in a single place. The precise reason for this is not entirely understood but may be caused by an exaggerated response when the immune system encounters a new and highly pathogenic invader. Cytokine storms have potential to do significant damage to body tissues and organs. If a cytokine storm occurs in the lungs, for example, fluids and immune cells such as macrophages may accumulate and eventually block off the airways, potentially resulting in death.[citation needed]
The cytokine storm (hypercytokinemia) is the systemic expression of a healthy and vigorous immune system resulting in the release of more than 150 known inflammatory mediators (cytokines, oxygen free radicals, and coagulation factors).[citation needed] Both pro-inflammatory cytokines (such as Tumor necrosis factor-alpha, Interleukin-1, and Interleukin-6) and anti-inflammatory cytokines (such as interleukin 10 and interleukin 1 receptor antagonist) are elevated in the serum of patients experiencing a cytokine storm.[citation needed]
Cytokine storms can occur in a number of infectious and non-infectious diseases including graft versus host disease (GVHD), acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), sepsis, avian influenza, smallpox, and systemic inflammatory response syndrome (SIRS).[2] Cytokine storm may also be induced by certain medications. The experimental drug TGN1412 caused extremely serious symptoms[3] likely due to a cytokine storm[4] when given to six participants in a Phase I trial.
The first reference to the term cytokine storm in the published medical literature appears to be by Ferrara et al.[5] in GVHD in February 1993.
[edit] Role in pandemic deaths
It is believed that cytokine storms were responsible for many of the deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic, which killed a disproportionate number of young adults.[1] In this case, a healthy immune system may have been a liability rather than an asset. Preliminary research results from Hong Kong also indicated this as the probable reason for many deaths during the SARS epidemic in 2003.[6] Human deaths from the bird flu H5N1 usually involve cytokine storms as well.[7] Recent reports of high mortality among healthy young adults in the 2009 swine flu outbreak has led to speculation that cytokine storms could be responsible for these deaths.[8] However, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have indicated that symptoms reported from this strain so far are similar to those of normal seasonal flu,[9] with the CDC stating that there is "insufficient information to date about clinical complications of this variant of swine-origin influenza A (H1N1) virus infection."[9]
[edit] Treatment
[edit] OX40 IG
A 2003 report in the Journal of Experimental Medicine published by researchers at Imperial College London demonstrates[10] the possibility of preventing a cytokine storm by inhibiting or disabling T-cell response. A few days after T cells are activated, they produce a biologic molecule called OX40, a "survival signal" that keeps activated T-cells working at the site of inflammation during infection with influenza or other pathogens. OX40 binds to receptors on T-cells, preventing them from dying and subsequently increasing cytokine production. A combined protein, OX40-immunoglobulin (OX40-Ig), a human-made fusion protein, prevents OX40 from reaching the T-cell receptors, thus reducing the T-cell response. Experiments in mice have demonstrated that OX40-Ig can reduce the symptoms associated with an immune overreaction while allowing the immune system to fight off the virus successfully. By blocking the OX40 receptor on T-cells, researchers were able to prevent the development of the most serious flu symptoms in these experimental mice[10] and reported the results in New Scientist.[11] The drug, to be made by a company called Xenova Research (Xenova Research was purchased by Celtic Pharma, a private equity firm, in September 2005), was supposed to be in phase I clinical trial in 2004, but its status is currently unknown.[12]
[edit] ACE inhibitors and Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers
The Renin Angiotensin system (RAS) has been implicated in the mediation of the cytokine storm,[13] suggesting a potential benefit for Angiotensin Converting Enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers (ARBs), and ACE has been implicated in inflammatory lung pathologies.[14] Shigehara et al. published research confirming that serum angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) is a useful marker for disease activity in cytokine-mediated inflammatory lung disease.[15] Marshall and co-workers also found that angiotensin II was associated with cytokine-mediated lung injury[16] and suggested a role for ACE inhibitors.
Wang and co-workers published data that cytokine-mediated pulmonary damage (apoptosis of lung epithelial cells) in response to the pro-inflammatory cytokine TNF-alpha (implicated in the cytokine storm) requires the presence of angiotensin II, suggesting that ARBs might have clinical utility in this setting.[17]
Das published a review of ACE inhibitor and angiotensin-II receptor blocker use in a number of cytokine-mediated inflammatory pathologies and suggested that ACE inhibitors and Angiotensin receptor blockers have theoretical benefit in downregulation of the cytokine storm.[18]
[edit] Corticosteroids
Although frequently employed to treat patients experiencing the cytokine storm associated with ARDS, corticosteroids and NSAIDs have been evaluated in clinical trials and have shown no effect on lung mechanics, gas exchange or beneficial outcome in early established ARDS.[2]
[edit] Free radical scavengers
Preliminary data from clinical trials involving patients with sepsis-induced ARDS have shown a reduction in organ damage and a trend toward improvement in survival (survival in ARDS is approximately 60%) after administering or upregulating a variety of free radical scavengers (antioxidants).[2]
[edit] TNF-alpha blockers
Some types of arthritis medications are designed to reduce inflammation by inhibiting the tumor necrosis factor-alpha pathway to immune cell activation; these drugs are known as TNF-alpha blockers. One study[19] found that three different TNF-alpha blockers afforded a slight reduction in antibody presentation after vaccination against influenza in a group of immunocompromised patients, however it did not significantly affect patients' protective factor gained from inoculation. More research is necessary before any conclusions may be made regarding the efficacy of TNF-alpha blockers at reducing the effects of a cytokine storm in hospitalized flu patients.
[edit] See also
[edit] References
- ^ a b Osterholm, Michael T. (2005-05-05). "Preparing for the Next Pandemic". The New England Journal of Medicine 352 (18): 1839–1842. doi:. PMID 15872196.
- ^ a b c Drazen, Jeffrey M.; Cecil, Russell L.; Goldman, Lee; Bennett, J. Claude (2000). Cecil Textbook of Medicine (21st ed.). Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders. ISBN 0-7216-7996-X.
- ^ Thelancetoncology, (February 2007). "Leading Edge: High stakes, high risks". Lancet Oncology (The Lancet) 8 (2): 85. doi:. PMID 17267317.
- ^ Coghlan A (2006-08-14). "Mystery over drug trial debacle deepens". Health. New Scientist. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9734-mystery-over-drug-trial-debacle-deepens-.html. Retrieved 2009-04-29.
- ^ Ferrara, JL.; S. Abhyankar, DG. Gilliland (February 1993). "Cytokine storm of graft-versus-host disease: a critical effector role for interleukin-1". Transplant Proc. 2 (25): 1216–1217. PMID 8442093.
- ^ Huang KJ, Su IJ, Theron M, Wu YC, Lai SK, Liu CC, Lei HY (February 2005). "An interferon-gamma-related cytokine storm in SARS patients". Journal of Medical Virology 75 (2): 185–94. doi:. PMID 15602737.
- ^ Haque A, Hober D, Kasper LH (October 2007). "Confronting potential influenza A (H5N1) pandemic with better vaccines". Emerging Infectious Diseases 13 (10): 1512–8. PMID 18258000. http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/13/10/1512.htm.
- ^ Lacey M McNeil DG Jr (2009-04-24). "Fighting Deadly Flu, Mexico Shuts Schools". NYTimes.com. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/25/world/americas/25mexico.html. Retrieved 2009-04-29.
- ^ a b "Interim Guidance for Clinicians on Identifying and Caring for Patients with Swine-origin Influenza A (H1N1) Virus Infection". Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). 2009-04-29. http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/identifyingpatients.htm. Retrieved 2009-04-29.
- ^ a b Humphreys, IR; G Walzl, L Edwards, A Rae, S Hill, T Hussell (2003-10-20). "A critical role for OX40 in T cell-mediated immunopathology during lung viral infection". J Exp Med. 198 (8): 1237–1242. doi:. PMID 14568982.
- ^ Bhattacharya S (2003-10-20). "New flu drug calms the 'storm'". New Scientist. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4293. Retrieved 2009-04-29.
- ^ OX-40 Clinical Trial details
- ^ Genctoy, G; B Altun et al. (February 2005). "TNF alpha-308 genotype and renin-angiotensin system in hemodialysis patients: an effect on inflammatory cytokine levels?". Artif Organs 29 (2): 174–178. doi:. PMID 15670287.
- ^ Moldobaeva, A; EM Wagner (December 2003). "Angiotensin-converting enzyme activity in ovine bronchial vasculature". J Appl Physiol (Department of Medicine, Johns Hopkins University) 95 (6): 2278–2284. doi:10.1152/japplphysiol.00266.2003 (inactive 2009-04-29). PMID 15670287.
- ^ Shigehara, K; N Shijubo et al. (April 2003). "Increased circulating interleukin-12 (IL-12) p40 in pulmonary sarcoidosis". Clin Exp Immunol (Sapporo Medical University School of Medicine) 132 (1): 152–157. doi:. PMID 12653850.
- ^ Marshall, RP; P Gohlke et al. (January 2004). "Angiotensin II and the fibroproliferative response to acute lung injury". Am J Physiol Lung Cell Mol Physiol (Royal Free and University College London Medical School) 286 (1): 156–164. doi:. PMID 12754187.
- ^ Wang, R; G Alam et al. (November 2000). "Apoptosis of lung epithelial cells in response to TNF-alpha requires angiotensin II generation de novo". J Cell Physiol (The Cardiovascular Institute, Michael Reese Hospital and Medical Center) 185 (2): 253–259. doi:. PMID 11025447.
- ^ Das UN (May 2005). "Angiotensin-II behaves as an endogenous pro-inflammatory molecule". The Journal of the Association of Physicians of India 53: 472–6. PMID 16124358.
- ^ Gelinck LB, van der Bijl AE, Beyer WE, Visser LG, Huizinga TW, van Hogezand RA, Rimmelzwaan GF, Kroon FP (May 2008). "The effect of anti-tumour necrosis factor alpha treatment on the antibody response to influenza vaccination". Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases 67 (5): 713–6. doi:. PMID 17965123.