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'HELLO, CENTRAL!' ISLAM (Updated Sept. 8, 2010)

Patrick H. Bellringer

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FROM:  Patrick H. Bellringer
     TO:  TK
DATE:  August 27, 2010
SUBJECT:  Reply
 
Dear TK:
 
    In fairness to our readers and to the Truth, I am presenting this discussion on Islam, as a "Hello, Central!"  When I said I was in agreement with you, that was in reference to what you had said about Malaysia.  You use Malaysia as a model Islamic country, but how do you justify what other Islamic countries are doing to their people, such as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan?
 
    Here is Dr. Peter Hammond's statement and your original response;
 
    1.  Dr. Peter Hammond:  "Slavery, Terrorism and Islam "
        http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=34302
 
    ISLAM

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

>From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- Muslim 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

This is scary. Here is some serious reading for serious thinkers.

Now that you know, what we will do with this knowledge?

 
2.  Your original response:
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TK
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:40 AM
Subject: Islamic Scare Tactics

You are at it again, using Islam as a whipping boy scare tactic.  Posting this kind of crap should not be tolerated by you if you are a true truth seeker.  Case in point is the following quote:

"From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%"

I have lived in Malaysia for nearly 40 years and it is a model country for the world to emulate.  It is a major crossroad for cultures, religions, ethnic populations from around the Asian and world regions.  It is one of the most progressive countries in the world and does not have "unfettered persecution", ethnic cleansing, Shariah Law applied to non-Moslems or any special taxes applied to infidels.  In fact any radical Islamic groups are quickly dealt with by the government and monitored very closely.  The Islamic majority actually adds a moral temperance to the government and society and the current "1 Malaysia" political theme does pervade the entire country where all races live in harmony and peace.  All races share in the wealth of this country and the government has equitably spread the wealth to all.  So the above is a baldfaced "lie" and "unfettered disinformation".

Patrick, when you spread "lies and fear" as per above you are only supporting the devil's doing.  As I have written to you before, Islam is a threat to the Church and the Illuminati because Muslims pray and converse directly with the Creator and are individually responsible for their own "choices".  Refer to Lady Nada's article and you have the same fundamental belief that is Islam.  You are individually responsible and only the Creator can forgive, but even that is not required if you "learn from your lessons (choices) and do what is right.  Islam lets the individual know that the Creator is "neutral" (a "3") and that each individual is weighed in judgment by the amount of good versus the evil, the right choices versus the wrong choices, that one makes during his/her lifetime(s). 

And if you wish to compare Islam versus Christianity/Judaism you will quickly find that the Church and Jews have been behind more killings, genocides, murders and unholy acts even as I write this now.  How may Muslims did the Serbs kill?  How many Iraqis have died at the hands of the Americans.  How many Afgans, Vietnamese, Cambodians have died by Russian and American bombs?  Millions!  That is genocide.  By who?!   Who started the Crusades?  Who did the Inquisition?  Who was responsible for the Holocost?  It wasn't the Muslims that's for sure.  So who should you fear?  Point your finger in the right direction.  Know who your real enemy is......for it is not a Muslim.  It never really has been.

Patrick, I sincerely appreciate and admire the truth and love that you put into your work and your Pheonix Journals so I implore you not to muddy your face by supporting the slander of nearly 1/4th of the World's population for the advancement of the wrong agenda.  Stcik to the Truth.  And as all Muslims say in greeting and in passing, "Assalamu'alaikum" ("May Peace and Blessings Be Upon You") (Compare that to "HELL-O" (OH its you) and "Good bye" (good you are leaving).  As Lady Nada says...."You choose what is right".

TK

 

(Response from Bellringer)

NOTE:  We agree with this man, and have removed the article in question from Fourwinds. ---PHB

Ref:  "Slavery, Terrorism and Islam " http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=34302

 
----- Original Message -----
From: TK
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Islamic Scare Tactics
 
Anne and Patrick,

Deleting an offending article quite frankly is not enough. 

The points that I made are an honest rebuttal to the disinformation that you posted and should be posted so that it is clear which side of the fence you actually sit on, particularly since this is not the first time that you have posted such articles and not posted my rebuttals.  It is time for Truth so don't be afraid to post it even though many American readers have already been brainwashed with anti-Islamic sentiments and biases. 

In this case the shame stain is on the both of you and only you can wash the mud off your own faces.  An apology to me is not necessary as I can feel your hearts.  A correction to a few other billion people of this world, however, is important, not just for them, but for yourselves as well.  We all have a few dark spots to enlighten. 

A Sincere Friend

Tom Kramer

 

 
 
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    Here is a note from another of our readers in response to what you said about the article in question.  --PHB
 
#1  (Reply)
----- Original Message -----
From: D
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:52 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
 
Message: 

Dear Ones, This is your site, print what pleases you. Let's not gloss over the fact that neither Sananda nor Aton endorces Islam. Let's not forget that Muslims do not educate women and they force them to wear headcoverings. Men have ALL the power, they stone people who they believe have done wrong and they cut off heads.This is not enlightened behavior. People always have blinders on about the shortcomings of their belief systems. Religions are not needed in 5D and above, good riddance.

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    The Phoenix Journals have something to say about Mohammad and Islam.  For example, in Phoenix Jouranl #2, p. 146 Esu Immanuel at the time of his physical persecution by the Roman soldiers, priests and elders, and Kaiphas the high priest made this statement:  --PHB
 
[Quoting] Immanuel was silent.  And they hit him again on the head and he moaned in pain and started to speak, "Verily I say to you, as you beat and mock me, you, too, shall be beaten and mocked.  The time will come in five times one hundred years when you shall have to atone for this day.  A new man will rise up in this land and whip and persecute you, and you shall have to pay with your blood.
 
"He will create a new cult and have people call him a prophet, and he shall persecute you throughout all times.  Even though he will be a false prophet and bring you a new false doctrine, he has great power and will have your race persecuted throughout all time to come.
 
"His name will be Mohammed, and his name will be, for your kind, horror, misery and death, which will be of your deserving.  Verily, verily I say to to you, his name will be written with blood and his hatred against your kind will be endless.  But so will his cult eventually be finished, when your kind and his kind will put down the foundation for a bloody ending for this world." [End quoting]
 
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    Creator God Aton of Light makes it quite clear in the Phoenix Journals that all religions are in error and do not present the whole Truth.  They become man-made cults operating under man-made laws and rules, and demand money and obediance from their followers.  This holds true of Islam, and such an ideology cannot be justified under the Laws of God and Creation (Phoenix Journal #27).
 
    As you suggest the Christian cult is no different.  In fact those historically, who have called themselves Christians, have probably killed more people than any other religion in the world.  This still holds true today with the wars of Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.  Religion has been the scourge of mankind.
 
    When will we ever learn the Truth?  I did not write the Phoenix Journals.  Creator God Aton and Esu Sananda and the Ascended Masters wrote the Phoenix Journals to present Truth one last time to the people of planet Earth Shan.  Do you believe that?  Will you read them?  Probaly not, but that is your choice.  To toss them aside you do so at the peril of your own soul.  I encourage everyone seriously seeking Truth to al least read Phoenix Journal #27, which most clearly presents the Laws of God and Creation one last time for all to know Truth.
 
    I also refer you to Phoenix Journal #100, p. 14-19 in reference to our above discussion.  May we always strive to walk in the Light of Truth.
 
                            In Love and Light,
                            Patrick H. Bellringer
                            bellringer@fourwinds10.com
                            wwwfourwinds10.com
 
#2  (Reply)
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TK
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: Islamic Scare Tactics
 
Please understand that most Westerners have been brainwashed for centuries to be AGAINST Islam.  This is primarily because the basic Islamic teachings of individual responsibility and ones direct communication with the Creator clearly bypass the Christian/Judea/Corporate/Babylonian concept of ruler/slave mentality.  Yes, Islam does respect a ruler hierarchy and that all religions and belief system "come from the same Source" and thus must be respected.

The problem comes, as in all religions and belief systems, when people focus on only the radical elements and then use these fractional minority practices to justify their dis-information and slanderous lies about any religion or belief group. 

You ask about Saudi Arabia and Afganistan and site women's persecution and other radical practices.  In actual fact, most women who use the "purdah" do so out of their own desire to maintain their own purity and not attract undo and unwanted attention to themselves from men other than their husbands and family.  It is a personal choice and many Muslim women choose not to wear such anymore.  In fact, the Quran specifically states that women have significant Rights long before Women's Lib even existed. 

Unfortunately, strict interpretations in some countries abrogate some individual's Free Will, and in fact such practices are contrary to the Quran and one's choice.  It is the "imposition of Will", that is, imposing your Will on someone else, that is in fact, the worst "sin" (haram act) that is defined in the Quran.  It is the only act to which Allah and the Apostle have declared "War" against.  Why?  Simply, anyone who tries to impose their Will on anyone or anything else is trying to "play God" or be better than the Creator.  If I were the Creator and my created was arrogant enough to try to be better than Me and usurp My Universal Laws, well, I would certainly put my foot down too.  The Quran states this clearly, but most Muslims (and most people worldwide) still choose to impose their Will on others.  Gimme, gimme, gimme.  Do this, do that.   What ever happened to giving a choice?  And "please".  What ever happened to "respect"?

As for head chopping and stoning, this is a rare occassion in this day and age, and should only be done following multiple eye witness proof of murder, adultry, rape, drug dealing and other such serious crimes as adjudicated in a Court.  But of course the Western media pounces on a radical happening of a remote family or mob reaction as proof of such barbaric actions.  And, of course, the Western press disregards the murder of Iraqi and Afgan civilians by the millions and the fact that the Taliban significantly decreased the production of opium during their period, but since the American invasion, opium production is now at its highest level ever.

Patrick,  Islam as practiced is not perfect, nor is any other religion in this world.  There are always those who occupy the fringes.  And there are those who exploit the radical elements to generate religious and inter-ratial hatred.  Divide and conquer.  Ruler/Slaves.  Your Dr. Peter Hammond is clearly one of those "spin doctors" spreading obvious lies and picking words that stir enmity......intentionally.

With respect to your Pheonix Journals (which I am reading), I agree that all religions and their dogmas and practices are often a detriment to mankind and mis-interpreted and manipulated by ":the hand of man" to justify personal and political/economic ends.  But I do beg to differ that Mohammed was a "false prophet" in that all soles have the light of the Creator and the good works and giving of a man over his lifetime are proof of his intent for good or evil.  This man lived a righteous and giving life and sacrificed for the good of mankind. 

Looking at Islam from your Pheonix Journal point of view, its rise was clearly foretold to be one against the Judasic and distorted Christian practices that have arisen.  Who created this learning situation other than the Creator (Aton)?  The Old Testiment also told of Mohammed's coming.  Why?  Such a Sole had to be "gifted" and directed for a purpose.  And that "purpose" is for us to learn, to compare, to choose that which is right over wrong and be individually responsible for our choices.  Islam as defined in your Journals was created by the Creator, not to oppose Emmanuel, but to be a counterpoint to the those that opposed him by implementing their Will on mankind (the Judainan, false Christians, Illuminati, etc.).  Notice the Balance that has been created intentionally.  By WHOM?

The Quran states that "all religions come from the same Source" and that "there is a Prophet for each race".  Simply, the Bible Prophets are not the only ones.  Some choose to follow Budda, Confuscious, Hindu Gods, Zoroaster, Sitting Bull, etc.  Prophets are just gifted soles that incarnate for a purpose.  Some may even say that Patrick is a Prophet because he wrote down as he was instructed the Pheonix Journals.  Shall we all bow down to Prophet Patrick?  Hell no!  He is just another gifted messenger, just like Emmanuel Christ, Mohammed, Budda, and many others that have come to mankind to teach so that we may learn.  And I, for one, thank Patrick for his contribution to our learning.

In Moslem communities, all children are taught to read and write the Quran plus their own languages.  Islamic schools also go well beyond just teaching the Quran and encourage students to learn about the world around them and the skills needed to live in this world.  The Quranic teachings primarily give a moral core to live by when pursuing ones life.  This is often contrary to Western education which allows free expression of Will that often leads to immoral activities, selfishness, greed, glluttony and all the other sins, particularly expressed by youth that lack a moral core.  This is why Muslim communities have their own schools.  Do you blame them?  Isn't this the same as Sunday School?  Oh, I forgot, that they don't practice that much more in the US.

Patrick, I do want to thank you for posting my replies.  I honor and respect your openness and the seeking of Truth.  I only hope that I may have added another dimension to your understanding, if only from my point of view.   We are here to learn from each other, and I thank you for your lessons.

Sincerely

TK

 
#3  (Reply)
 
----- Original Message -----
From: HT
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject: RE:About Islam in Malaysia
 
Dear Patrick.regards to Anne.

You are not completely wrong about your comment about the Muslims.

But about Muslim in Malaysia he is not completely correct.In Malaysia the Malay Muslim  think

Islam is created by the Malays.If the Malay Muslim is the 60% of the America pop,they will do what the Zion Jews

are doing.We have Chinese Muslim and Indian Muslim in Malaysia.They also second class.Maybe it is not the religion.I dont know.

I personally like the religion.But ever since I discover Fourwinds.I have left the RC.Bless you and Anna.Regards HL.

 
 
 #4  (Reply)
 
----- Original Message -----
From: D
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
 
 Message:

 IMHO, a man who marries an older widow, confiscates her fortune and then lets her starve to death is not an enlightened prophet worthy of following. Don\'t forget \'honor\' killing, killing one\'s daughter because she embarrassed the family. People do NOT die of embarrassment. It is one\'s choice to BE embarrassed or not. Hindu is no better with wives throwing themselves on a funeral pyre and mothers-in-law killing daughters-in-law because they don\'t measure up. I\'ll choose enlightenment over religion any day.

 
#5  (Reply)
 
----- Original Message -----
From: AM
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 3:15 PM
Subject: Hello Central "Islam"
 

The minions of Satan who mapped the Protocols of Zion since the Babylonian Talmud origin have paid particular attention to the use of religion(s) and religious sentiments as a weapon of war in their divide and conquer agenda and ensuing enslavement agendas. This is one of the many sound reasons why we are warned about religions in Phoenix Journal 27.

One of the reasons it may be difficult to fully understand “Muslim” or “Islam” is due to the way it has been “fused” in our minds as a “patsy” since the 9/11 black operation that was engineered to be “a Muslim based terrorist attack”. This form of mind controlling propaganda had the intent of fanning the flames of religion (Muslim) to begin the genocide holocaust of a WWIII among other reasons. That intent from minions is still present. The buttons are still being pushed. This is an upfront example of the divide and conquer protocol.

Another reason it may be difficult to fully appreciate everything being presented here about Muslim is a reality that Muslim is not just about the Qur'an(Koran) or a prophet of origin that is revered. This cultural religion is also about Sharia, the laws of Islam which are considered sacred by Muslims. The Sharia is established and maintained across the cultures of Muslim practices by 4 distinct authority groups who write and monitor religious law, namely the Hangali, Hanifi, Maliki, and Shafi'i. There is a fusion of civil and religious law because the four schools of law do not easily agree with each other, in my opinion, which can be further used to keep flames fueled for division.

There are vulnerable areas to religions and religious beliefs that continue to be exploited. Souls advancing in their enlightenment within will break away from religion when the trap is recognized and accepted. As pointed out by “D”, religion is strictly a 3D product. Creator Source never commanded

“Let there be religion”, “Let there be 384 religious laws for this group, 264 laws for that group, and 182 laws for this other group”!, nor are “ritualistic” practices commanded, including worship or how many times to pray each day or what diet to follow. Such activities are products of the human ego, man made and not of the One True God. These are more reasons, the emphasis being on “reason”, why the pitfalls of religion are presented in the Phoenix Journals. The vulnerability of religion and the manipulation of religious beliefs is primarily due to the fact that religions are built upon, or from ego and ego based beliefs. This form of belief is feeling or emotion based and is the very reason the flames of religious warfare can be sparked any time. The stages get set when envy, hatred, jealousy, insecurity,

fear, guilt, or any other of the ego's negative emotions can be pitted one against the other. Another pitfall pointed out in the study of the Phoenix Journals and in Esu Immanuel Sananda's own words (The Talmud of Jmmanuel) is deification (idolatry) of human beings. Sananda states in his own words he was not crucified and he did not die on the cross, nor did he die to save the world or any one from their own mistakes (sins). He walked here at that time to demonstrate self-responsibility in following the path of Light, not the “giving over” of your power to a messiah, savior, deified prophet, man made religious law, or any other game put on the stage by Satan's minions. Yes, as this is a 3D free will zone you choose whom or what you belief in and why.

Creator God Aton asks us to follow 18 spiritual laws, 4 golden virtues, and break the cycles of 12 deadly sins. Following man made religious law is not a requirement to be in relationship, one on one, with Creator God in the following of His Will and Wisdom.

In the One Light of Creator Source,

AM

 

 

#6  (Reply)

----- Original Message -----
From: TK
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:32 PM
Subject: Islam - Final Comments
 

Patrick,

The responses published by HD and D are again typical replies by anyone who chooses to see negativity versus the positive aspects of any religion, culture or society.  None are perfect as this is a 3D world created in "duality".  It is in understanding that "duality" that is the basis of true knowledge and then perhaps a bit of wisdom.

The Holy Quran is all about "duality" and the "choices" each individual has to make with respect to religion, law, work, family, society, etc.  All the parables, stories and structure of this document are based on this "duality" and your Free Will to "choose" what is righteous and good.  It is simply your Right to Choose.  Many choose to be Service-To-Self beings as opposed to Service-To-Other beings.  This is "duality".  Extend this to family, groups, ethnic societies, nations and you get the "duality" mix we call humanity.

Shakespear was correct when he wrote that "all the world's a stage and all the people are merely actors" (playing good or evil roles, wearing white or black hats as the occasion may warrant).   I always liked watching the "Godfather" movie and noted how such mean and horrible people could "love" and care for their families so much.  Actors and choices.  It all depends on one's point of view at a point in time, eh?

"Duality" in motion........Obama and Casper.  Who has the moral core?  You choose.

The Quran should also be seen as being different to the practice of Islam as the former is a static document versus an individual's ":interpretation".  The same can be said about the Bible versus Judaism or Christianity as practiced.  But in the case of the Bible you have to ask "Which Bible?" as there are over 150 versions sworn to by as many sects.  At least the Quran hasn't been changed over time and offers a static source document as a reference point for understanding "duality" and the moral codes of Universal Law.  

"D" was correct in his final conclusion that he (and we) seeks only "enlightenment".  I hope that my words may have "enlightened" you to seek out Truth and the "Balance" with respect to understanding religious beliefs and the necessity for counterpoints of duality in comprehending the complex world we live in and how all our choices effect all others.  We are One.  But we need both White Hats and Black Hats in order to learn and understand, in order to "choose" our own Path.

Sincerely to All

TK

(Response)

FROM:  Patrick H. Bellringer
     TO:  TK
DATE:  August 30, 2010
SUBJECT:  Reply
 
Dear TK:
 
    Though you want the last word in support of your beloved Holy Quran, that is not going to happen.  The Phoenix Journals of the 1990's are Creator God's words of Truth "one last time to set the record straight for these Last Days of this last 3D civilization on Earth Shan".
 
    Believe what you will, but all religions are flawed and all religions have led many seekers down the path of deception and un-Truth.  Islam is no exception.  It matters not how perfect the Quran may be, its interpretation and practice have resulted in much confusion and evil doing by millions.  Money, greed, power and control always surface in the name of religion.
 
    No religion or religious leader is needed for one to make contact with Creator God, for direct contact is easily made through one's God Spirit within.  God is always and only a thought away.  It is so 3D to argue about religion, so passe!
 
                            In Love and Light,
                            Patrick H. Bellringer
 
 
#7  (Reply)
 
----- Original Message -----
From: RP
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
 
 Message:

 Having done a lot of research on Islam it has become apparent that islam is a religion of war, terror, force and that the prophet mohammed has been proved to be nothing other than ungodly. There are 100+ verses in Islam that advocate the use of violence to spread islam and exactly 123 verses about fighting and killing. There are shocking recorded stories of the horrific things Mohammed did. This is spoken about by ex-mulims (who incidently have not become ex because they may have converted to something else). There is enough proof out there to prove that Mohammed is false and the koran a book that preaches hatred of non-muslims. You only have to look at the wanton destruction of all the hindu temples and massacres of hindus in islamic times of India, that this is a religion of hate and not peace because the prophet himself was a warlord. Please comment.