From:

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:20 AM

Subject: Brendan the Australian Banker

Dear Patrick,

I feel compelled to point out an obvious clue here to the whole "Who's right about NESARA" issue regarding "Brendan". If you will notice his email address: ascension@live.com.au, in Internet protocol, the "au" indicates Australia. I find it curious that Brendan the Brussles Banker comes from Australia - anyone else?

Another point about Brendan. Each of the players in NESARA, sees things from a different perspective. Yourself, your audience, myself - we see things from the spiritual perspective. We speak of ascension, St. Germain, prosperity funds, the star family, etc. I imagine that other folks, bankers, politicians, etc. that are involved in the global paradigm shift may not even be aware at all of the spiritual side of things. Like all of us, they are merely following the demands of their growing consciousness. Someone such as a Banker may only understand what is happening from their own "box" if you will - a global redistribution of wealth and a new monetary system. How many folks out there in the "spiritual" camp are experts in the political and financial aspects and can speak the language of those disciplines? My point here with this argument is this: I find it curious that this "banker" fellow comes on speaking in all of the buzz words that are used on fourwinds and then asks for money.

Let's now extend that argument to Caspar and Poof. They have left what must be by now over a hundred messages giving us all kinds of details about who's doing what to whom and the money got held up again because... like some kind of NESARA soap opera. When have they EVER been right? NOT ONCE! Ye shall know them by their fruits, right? Well let's take a closer look at those fruits.

How does everyone feel out there when they are told by the so called "experts" that those packets are on the way time after time, but oops, they were called back at the last minute - AGAIN. People who follow and trust these guys probably feel pretty dejected about the whole thing I would expect. Can you see the game? Build up hope, and smash it over and over - what happens? People get discouraged and give up hope that the changes are coming! Oh sure you can through in some juicy details like G.W. did this, and the Queen did that, and of course sprinkle in some truth so it all looks like it could be true, after all, there's SOME truth in it. All of these qualities in their messages basically speak to psy-ops. This is what you do if you are fighting a resisting population, you give them hope and you snatch it away until they are fed up and give up hope for change. Now I fully concede that Poof and Caspar could possibly be what they claim, and are just innocent pawns trying to do the right thing. So I invite them to prove me wrong. But for the moment 100% of the evidence says that they either know nothing or are lying. When we look at their fruits as discussed above - disillusionment, how can anyone keep falling for this?

I absolutely believe in the changes that are now occuring at an ever increasing rate. I see it everywhere in everyone. I believe in a prosperity program such as NESARA or something like it. I also believe that not even the angels know exactly when though. For even as the shift in consciousness is a garauntee, for those who choose to wake up and wise up anyway, the road we take to get their is paved by us - our choices, our consciousness. It will happen when it happens. Keep your faith, keep your light, and above all learn to listen to your own inner voice, it is never wrong. It helps to disengage from the kinds of drama you see on the TV or in the Poof and Caspar reports and get your bearings from your own inner feelings. You would be surprised what they can reveal. Poof and Caspar spin a good and entertaining yarn, but it has yet to bear out as the truth.

Sincerely,

A fellow truth seeker

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: Dork

DATE: Feb. 3, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear Dork:

You are one of the biggest "Dorks" that has ever written to me. You trash Casper and Poof for lying to the pubic, when you have absolutely no basis for saying that. You claim to be a spiritual authority with little knowledge of the financial world, so why are you judging those, who obviously know far more than you about the workings of the banking system and funding processes?

Casper, Brendan, Poof, and myself and others can give no guarantee of the future. Even a "Dork" should know that. We can only report what has transpired to a certain point and state the plans in place at that moment. Should things turn out differently, have we lied, "Dork?" We are only news reporters.

This is neither a "game" or a "NESARA Soap Opera", as you claim. With your "spiritual perspective" why is it that you cannot see the Truth in this Battle with Darkness? When this is all over and Goodness reigns supreme, I suppose you will claim the change all happened by magic.

I have one final question. Why do you not give your name? Are you afraid to attach your name to this epistle? If so, why? Having no identity to which to reply, the first name that came to me was "Dork". So, who is right about NESARA, Dork? I did not know that that was even an issue--besides, this Is Sunday morning!

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

bellringer@fourwinds10.com

www.fourwinds10.com

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: RY

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:37 PM

Subject: what a negative responce to some legitament questions

Dear Mr. Bellringer,

I must say in res-ponce to the e-mail from "Dork" he must have struck a nerve. After all he did make some valid points. None of what these people ever say is verifiable in any way. How can you expect anyone to not question what their per porting to be true? I don't think name calling is the enlightened res pone. Apparently the build ups and let downs have even gotten to you. I have to admit that over the years i have been disappointed many times with these events. Some of the claims made by Casper,Poof and others are extraordinary and you know what thy say about that. I'd just like to say about these great big changes that are suppose to be coming in the political and, economic world and, these tremendous power shifts that these guise keep talking about, none of it has ever really been born out. I mean even the main stream media can't control every piece of information. When claims are made that someone very big and, important has been killed or arrested and, thy don't come home that night it send shock waves through their family's then, their communities then through society as a whole. Word of mouth is a very powerful thing and can't always be controlled. Aside from that, there are many other non mane stream news out lets like Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Paul Craig Robberts and, many many others who may not have every thing right but thy cross reference and verify and sort out the information thy put out. When they make mistakes like, every one dose, they make retractions. I know your guise do too but the point is, that some of the claims made by the NESASA camp can't be verified or cross referenced very easily, sometimes not at all. I tell allot people and friend about these changes and events that i do believe are going to happen like NESARA and economic problems and the like. I refer them to web sites like this one and others to try and do my part to spread truth and knowledge as best i can. That's better than trying to tell someone that i heard it from Poof or Casper. That tends to a blank stare. I km ow that what you are trying to do is not easy. Wakening blind, ignorant, and brainwashed people up is no small feat and i thank you from the bottom of my heart for the excellent work that you do. So please excuse us "Dorks" for our impetuousness and indiscretion but we've been told by someone on high to question everything including HIM.

Love light & lite

RS

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: RY

DATE: Feb. 3, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear RY:

Thank you for writing. You have made your point. "Dork" was not writing with good intent, like so many do, but only to trash people and call them liars, with absolutely no basis for his statements.

Yes, you are to question everything, but you have also been told to use discernment and to learn to have faith in those things that are true but cannot be proven. People have a problem believing that human clones make up our U.S. Government. Henry Paulson was killed and cloned, but who understands that? NESARA is very real, but again few believe that?

I can not prove to anyone things that can only be understood by the heart. This battle with Darkness has both a 3D physical nature and a spiritual nature. Therein lies the problem for many people. They are unable to move from looking at their world outside to going within and seeing the real world that is beyond the illusion.

Those, who have reached this level of knowing in their heart center, do not need proof of NESARA. They understand the depth of the deceit of the Darkside, and that the Dark games repeatedly reported by Casper and Poof and others, are quite valid. Having reached such understanding, one then focuses not on these repeating games, but on the "known" outcome, that of the victory of the Light.

My friend, there is something to be said about the wise statement, "Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread". Discernment leads to wisdom, and wisdom to knowing, where proof if no longer an issue.

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: CH

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:26 PM

Subject: response to a letter

Dear Mr. Bellringer

I feel the need to write in regards to your response to the gentleman who expressed his opinion regarding "Brendan the Australian Banker". I rarely visit your site as my intution has told me repeatly that you are not what you claim to be. Your response to this gentleman's letter reenforces my feelings. For someone who claims to be working for the Light you are insulting and really need to get your ego under control. I agree 100% with this gentleman that this roller coaster ride that you and your associates put people through regarding Nesara has absolutely no benefit but to discourage people. But than again that is probably the intent!

Please don't bother writing back as I don't feel the need to be insulted by you. Just wanted to hold a mirror up for your observation.

Kind regards

CH

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: CH

DATE: Feb. 3, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear CH:

Thank you for your comments. If you do not like what you read on Fourwinds, why do you keep returning to read more? If it is true, as you say, that you rarely visit Fourwinds, I can only assume that you have read very little, if anything, that I may have written. If this be true, on what, other than hearsay, do you base your intuition?

You make the choice to hook your life to the NESARA roller coaster, but that does not change the fact of NESARA. I do not "put" you or anyone through anything. You have a freewill, and you choose to be discouraged or not to be. It is your choice to be a happy person or not to be.

You say, "please don't bother writing back as I don't feel the need to be insulted by you". Why did you write to me in the first place? Did you think you would "hit" me and then run? Of what are you afraid? How can you think anything about me, when you really know nothing of who I am?

How will you feel when NESARA happens, and you have done little to make it happen? My sister, may you learn to see with your heart.

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer