Henry Kissinger, Jeremy Corbyn and thier odd thing in common: Ukraine
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Henry Kissinger, Jeremy Corbyn and their odd thing in common: Ukraine
Henry Kissinger,left, a foreign policy realist and practitioner of realpolitik is as dovish on Ukraine as UK Labour leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn. AP
by Leonid Bershidsky
It’s unusual to see a longtime Republican agree with a near-Communist about any issue. Yet Henry Kissinger and Jeremy Corbyn, the leading candidate to lead the U.K. Labour Party, see eye to eye on one thing: the Ukraine crisis.
Corbyn is pro-Russian, and it’s no surprise; European radicals on both the left and on the right tend to back President Vladimir Putin if only because the establishment hates him. Corbyn has recently received so much airtime on RT, Russia’s English-language propaganda channel, you might think he was running for the leadership of Putin’s party, United Russia.
Kissinger is another matter. The architect of detente between the U.S. and the Soviet Union in the 1970s is a proponent of realpolitik rather than value-based policies, but he is no fan of Putin’s. Yet he and Corbyn use similar language when talking about the conflict between Russia and the West over Ukraine.
Here’s Corbyn:
Then Secretary of State Henry Kissinger with Australian Prime Minister J. Malcom Fraser.
“The hypocrisy of the West remains unbelievable. NATO has sought to expand since the end of the cold war. It has increased its military capability and expenditure. It operates way beyond its original 1948 area and its attempt to encircle Russia is one of the big threats of our time.”
Here’s Kissinger: “Breaking Russia has become an objective; the long-range purpose should be to integrate it.”
Corbyn: “We should oppose any foreign military intervention in Ukraine, as that would only succeed in that country reliving its traumatic past as a battleground where Russia and Western Europe vie for supremacy.”
Kissinger: “One should at least examine the possibility of some cooperation between the West and Russia in a militarily nonaligned Ukraine.”
Labour Party leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn is getting a huge amount of airtime on Russian state televison. Reuters
The retired conservative and the suddenly resurgent socialist both speak of the need to take into account Ukraine’s history with Russia. Kissinger says the two countries’ relationship can never be limited to one of two traditional sovereign states, “not from the Russian point of view, maybe not even from Ukraine’s”. Corbyn reminds his audience that “Ukraine’s national borders have ebbed and flowed with the tides of history, from being the original heartland of Russian civilisation, expanding under Moscow’s rule during the tsarist era and becoming part of the Soviet Union after 1917.”
Both Corbyn and Kissinger have problems with people who are fighting on the Ukrainian side. The British leftist talks about “far-right and racist involvement” in the uprising that toppled former President Viktor Yanukovych. Kissinger bemoans the support Ukraine has received from anti-Russian groups from the Caucasus: “When you read now that Muslim units are fighting on behalf of Ukraine, then the sense of proportion has been lost.”
In other words, both agree that the Western approach to the crisis must take into account the stormy relationship Ukraine has had with Russia through the ages; that the West would be better off finding a way to cooperate with Russia rather than trying to break it; and that the Ukrainian government has found some strange bedfellows in its fight to dissociate itself from Moscow — forces with which the West shouldn’t ally. And even though both Corbyn and Kissinger believe Putin overstepped the mark in Ukraine, punishment is not a strategy either of them favours.
This dovish view is decidedly on the fringe. The current Western mainstream — and the leaders in charge of handling the Ukraine crisis — reject it with stock arguments that aren’t easy to counter: Most Ukrainians want to leave their country’s common history with Russia behind. There’s no way to cooperate with Putin because he isn’t bound by his word. The West has done its best to keep out of the military confrontation, refusing even to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine. Finally, no one can prevent those who support Ukrainian independence from fighting for it.
Perhaps Corbyn and Kissinger are doves because, as outsiders, they can afford that luxury. It’s easy to sit back and imagine how they might have handled the situation at an earlier stage. They might, for example, have included Russia in trade talks between Ukraine and the European Union, working out a deal that could have suited all sides and prevented the Ukrainian “Revolution of Dignity”. And if that uprising happened anyway, they might have cooperated with Russia in negotiating with its leaders rather than fostering a conflict between Kiev and Moscow.
Such scenarios are purely hypothetical, though. Yes, the European Union, NATO, Washington, Moscow or Kiev might have saved thousands of lives by handling things differently. The problem with the doves is that they don’t offer a credible alternative to the rather clear, moderately hawkish policy that Western leaders are pursuing now: maximum non-lethal aid and political support for Ukraine, and for Russia, containment in the hope that its corrupt political system and oil-dependent economy can’t bear the weight of Putin’s imperial ideology.
It’s only sane to want to shun confrontation and seek an end to conflict. However, the doves would be much more convincing — and more numerous — if they could suggest something new and useful to be done today. As it is, they sound as if they think it best to just leave Ukraine to Putin.
Leonid Bershidsky, a Bloomberg View contributor, is a Berlin-based writer.
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I told you previously that Jeremy Corbyn is a controlled opposition in leagues with the Zionist agenda regardless of any diversions.
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This was very interesting. But apparently Peter “The Prince of Darkness” Mandelson really does fears Corbyn. He tried to cancel the Labour leadership elections comming up next month. Is it that he is trying to save his friend Tony Blair from going to prison? Or does he just think that this commie, Corbyn, will destroy the Labourparty and he is trying to save it?
BTW. When it come to the Ukraine. The Kiev junta claims that Trump is a “kremlin agent” working for Putin. A very interesting theory. It seems Putin is trying to stirr up some trouble in US politics if Trump is a Putin-agent.
I know you like Putin. But maybe Putin is just like Trump. All controlled by the Vatican through the Russian Central Bank (promoting the BISs currency wars) and the Orthodox Church under the thumb of the World Council of Churches.
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The Labour Party has already been destroyed, Tony Blair was the start of the destruction of the political party and that was when it became known as New Labour. These cretins all in fight so they can steal the limelight from others and shaft each other over past arguments etc. When it comes to the City of London they hate Glass Steagall electric fencing and they control all the derivatives market so who’ll be left holding the gambling false debt? The City of London and Wall St not the regular banking system and that’s what Glass Steagall does it protects the peoples banking. Without the derivatives the debt creation is hindered and destroyed but the City want the world like Greece so they will fight tooth and nail. Tony Blair is a Crown Templar power and he will serve and attempt to protect this most ancient of powers headed in ancient Londinium aka City of London aka New Jerusalem mastering the New Venice Empire.
So you trust anything that comes out of the voice of the Nazi Kyiv which is controlled by Victoria Nuland a puppet of both Republican war criminal Dick Cheney and neocon Zionists? Why do I smell the stench of Jew Sheldon Adelson all of a sudden? Oh please! Trump has nothing to do with Vladimir Putin and talk like this is just more anti-Russia propaganda. In fact by Kyiv spewing such talk it might even backfire on them because Americans may start to like Putin more if they like this Trump weasel. Trump’s controllers are based in both Crete, Illinois and Denver, Colorado and they’re known as the Federal Bureau of Investigation Division #5. Vladimir Putin will not be connected with the FBI#5 and infact he will be an enemy of this devious group. You’ll find out what will happen to that Central Bank of Russia when Putin’s new economic system gets rolled in and then you’ll see who the real bossman is and just the same in China as both Prometheans Putin and Xi Jingping bring about a New World Economic Order that will forward not arrest mankind. Vladimir Putin the greatest man walking on this planet and a true Promethean legend.
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