imo treasure and gold hoarders are pathetic mental rejects that hide them away in a hidden vault to never be seen again

Posted By: Striderus <Send E-Mail>

Date: Sunday, 2-Aug-2009 01:59:11

Excuse me for NOT swallowing the bunkers of treasure and oooo gold that Rayelan (only because you have talked about the Austrian gold treasures) and who this is more directed at the chinese king that claims to hold mountains of gold and treasure that seems to come through Ben Fulford speaking for this so called blue group of illuminati.

I keep sitting back listening to this stuff and ....well have to laugh because as we all who are aware of the level that the world's technology is at know that if there are piles of gold any where near the surface and I'am talking about within the top 10 miles below the surface ...they know it is THERE ! They would know exactly where it is and exactly how to get to it !

Secondly if any of these groups are tied to aliens or if they have any captured or earth human built UFOs they could very easily get straight to it no matter where it was inside the earth. Further more the idea that has been stated by others that the aliens are coming to collect these piles of gold seem to me to be BS because if they have these ufos they could just take it any time they want to....duhhh and....if there are deep earth alien bases they could duhhh use their technology to mine it themselves or use robots/robotic machines ....like we already DO.

Now I want to address this part toward this so called Chinese king and any other so called royalty that claims to have vaulted treasures and gold, since you all are so self serving, why do you all hoard this stuff??? What good is it if you can't use it to build a castle out of it, etc. you know just gloat and live all over it, make everything out of gold and gems ? I mean if you have all these real treasures of old, not just gold what good is it in a bunker where you can look, touch, and use these things....ok maybe your afraid to break some of it....but I know by the way you people are with your gotta own the world mentality that you would at least want it in a museum with your name on the plate as the owner so you can rub it in the faces of everyone on earth, gloat over the glory like you already all do now...you know like these POS so called kings and queens do right now, ie. like the q of england.

I know that I'm different than the way people are today, I take very good care of every thing I own, like I have a cabinet that was make in china that is 20+ years old...ya cheap crap and people that I knew that also had the very same one ,theirs broke within months of buying it and had to throw it away and buy another....these people are known as the throw away'ers which china depends on to stay in business...I say screw them and keep my , even cheap crap in tip top condition so they get NOTHING. My point is that that is also how the elite believe, taught, and are. Except the things they own are just to look at...what a waste...but having treasures like what have been talked about in these bunkers is even a bigger waste. If it wasn't for the historical value ...I would love to know that these treasures were destroyed by nature or even better the Aliens so you elites would have nothing to gloat about...

To me having fine things that you can't enjoy, use, look at, etc. stuffed in a bunker hidden is PATHETIC and so are those who own, control, hide these treasures if they're even real, which I have many reasons to believe, they do NOT exist.

What good is it to extract the gold and other gems and metals from the earth only to put them all into a vault and do nothing with them except to say they're yours....what a bunch of mental rejects imo.

Maybe these people should be looked in their treasure vaults and the keys thrown away, doors buried so they can hug and kiss their treasures for eternity ! since that is all they care about.....at least that way they can enjoy it forever !

Maybe good 'ole Ben can ask the Chinese king ????

Striderus

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E-mail from WHISTLEBLOWER, Regarding the Treasures

Posted By: hobie <Send E-Mail>

Date: Monday, 3-Aug-2009 00:18:04

In Response To: You Don't Have a Clue - Maybe Whistleblower Can Tell You Why (Rayelan)

E-mail from Whistleblower:

Dear Hobie,

Reference to the article below posted on Sunday 2^nd August, where Rayelan is politely requesting a response from me.

I will therefore oblige because this is a very important issue, whereby many people just do not understand how important, both historically and today, it is. My response is a long one for which I apologize, but necessary under the circumstances.

You Don't Have a Clue - Maybe Whistleblower Can Tell You Why

Posted By: Rayelan

Date: Sunday, 2-Aug-2009 04:02:33

In Response To: imo treasure and gold hoarders are pathetic mental rejects that hide them away in a hidden vault to never be seen again (Striderus)

I have to say that before I even put pen to paper on this, I needed to check my family history and have a good look at myself in the mirror.

I am pleased to inform every reader on RMN that I am NOT an alien. However, Striderus you had me worried there for a moment. To celebrate the fact that I know who I am and what I am (Human), etc, etc, etc, I’ve just had a wee dram (The first for many months) of the best tonic which ever came out of Scotland, now I am ready to answer the question(s).

“evil king”,

Yes, you are right. Centuries ago it would have been evil king(s) sending their armies out all over the world to Rob, Rape , and Pilage. Some of them even used Religion to justify their means. Today and in the last 200 years or so, those evil King(s) were killed or reduced to just a Constitutional Monarch(s) in favour of elected democracies controlled mainly by the elite of society at the time.

As time and man has evolved, those elitists have formed various groups, secret societies, organizations, that have now replaced the “Evil King(s)” and given themselves, without little opposition by the electorate, power to such an extent that they are, in some cases, far more powerful than the “Evil King(s)” ever were, and the populous just sit back and let it all happen, then moan and groan when it is too late.

“The good kings from all around the world joined together and made an agreement. They would find places in the world where huge vaults could be constructed. Before their lands were claimed by the evil King, they would move all of their treasures to these huge vaults. Once their treasures were hidden, they worked from behind the scenes to defeat the evil king”.

That is as near accurate as one can get with such a short statement. The alternative statement would be a comprehensive report of about 25 pages, so let’s not confuse people and keep it as simple as we possibly can.

“At the exact moment that he is defeated, they can bring forth their royal treasure houses, and divide up the money with the people of earth”.

This should have happened some 100 years ago, but unfortunately the Elitist groups (Politicians, Businessmen, Religious groups, secret societies) who were controlling everything that happened in the world, also took control of the International Financial System, organizing more and more secret groups to operate (as it turned out, in their favour) the International Financial System including the control, management and administration of all these treasures.

During this period those groups utilized these treasures for their own benefit and the benefit of their own nations, forsaking every other Nation on this earth.

Fortunately, crooks do get over greedy and want more and more, and as history tells us, those crooks eventually end up getting caught. That just happens to be the situation with the World’s treasures, The Elitist groups got caught with their both hands (not just fingers) in the pie and were removed from their position by the real hereditary owners of the World’s treasures. That was in December 1994, following which the Hereditary owners appointed one of their own, on January 20^th 1995, as Legal Decadency to Heir, Owner and Sole Arbiter of the World’s treasures, which for the sake of being correct are referred to as the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility.

The World’s treasures are now being brought forward for the benefit of ALL Nations of the world and ALL people of the World. Unfortunately, there was a slight delay with this because substantial time was spent initially resolving serious problems inherited from the previous elitist group(s) which was officially known as the Trillateral Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission, an off-shoot of the Bretton Woods Treaty 1945

“Robbery”

I would prefer to use the word “Plundering”, because of its more definitive definition than “Robbery”.

We are aware largely of whom the robbers are, and the main one are (some of you won’t like this but it is the truth), America, or to be more precise specific high level officials and Government Officers, together with specific Government departments, and the CIA. Yes the CIA.

Many people are unaware that although under one roof, the CIA is divided into two distinct parts, the Legal and Authentic part, which is financed legitimately through the American Budget, then there is the illegal or rogue part which is self financing through theft, plunder, assassinations, covert operations, political manipulation, and so on. If this latter part was financed legitimately through the American budget, American taxation would need to rise by approximately 500% just to cover the costs involved for every unofficial agent, equipment, expenses, etc.

Surprised, you shouldn’t be as there are in excess of 2400 unofficial agents in the Philippines alone, plus in excess of 1000 in Thailand, and in excess of 750 in Cambodia, and that is just three countries out of 197 countries of the World.

Now I will attend to the points which appear to have been made by Striderus:-

“President Gloria of the Philippines is trying to give to President Obama... If she is successful and Obama sends in the military to get the gold... it won't go to the people of the earth... it will go to the Cabal that is handling President Obama... and a very good share to Gloria”.

Yes, Gloria and her husband Mike are serious crooks and thieves, far bigger than Marcos ever was. We are fully aware of what she and her husband have done, have stolen, and are doing. In the same way we are fully aware of what Cory Aquino (I don’t like speaking ill of the dead, but it is necessary for people to know the real truth), and her family did. Her son alone stole 20 MT of Gold and deposited same in Citibank of Singapore. Then there is Fidel Ramos, a staunch CIA operative (by the way, the Fidel Ramos you see today is not the same Fidel Ramos that was President of the Philippines following Acquino), the one you see today is a double, a relative yes, but a double. The real Fidel Ramos died some years ago of cancer, not too long after his arrest and temporary imprisonment in Switzerland, but his position as a master CIA operative needed to be maintained in order to control.

Then came Estrada, who didn’t particularly like or concur with America, so he had to go in a coup operated by Gloria and her cohorts, and so the Philippines continues to decline, ultimately to become the most derelict country on this earth. Gloria and Mike Arroyo, Fidel Ramos, Cory Aquino was the malignant cancer of the Philippines, which is now close to terminal stage. All directly related to the rogue CIA or associated with the rogue CIA because of their position.

I pity the Filipino people who just do not realize what is going on, and they are the ones who have had to put up with all of this without really knowing about it.

I have named names because I am not afraid to do so, and not afraid to state the truth. The proof is there and will be used at the right time.

If President Obama gets it, then we can not use it until it is recovered, which will be detrimental to the World and its people, and our objectives. This matter therefore has to be brought into order before such actions take place.

“There are items in these treasures that would give the Illuminati power like none they have ever had.

Absolutely correct, so much power that the world would regret it whereby the majority would be totally subservient to the illuminati, or any other elitist group that obtained this wealth.

Furthermore, one has to realize, and I really do mean realize, that this wealth has been the catalyst for many wars over hundreds of years, so safety and control away from the hands and the greed of these Elitist groups is totally paramount to ensure that subservience of the masses does not become a reality, in the same way that safety and control ensures that the world will never again go into war because of these treasures.

Not an easy situation to maintain a balance and at the same time ensure that these treasures are used / utilized for the benefit of ALL Nations and People of the World.

Keeping these items hidden meant keeping them away from the Illuminati... aka the evil King's followers... henceforth the need for the underground vaults...”

Yes, that is about as simple as it can be explained for the understanding of the masses.

“I keep sitting back listening to this stuff and ....well have to laugh because as we all who are aware of the level that the world's technology is at know that if there are piles of gold any where near the surface and I'am talking about within the top 10 miles below the surface ...they know it is THERE ! They would know exactly where it is and exactly how to get to it ! :

With the evolvement of modern technology just in the last few decades, yes it is very possible to locate Gold and other metals at far greater depths below the earth’s surface than was originally imagined. Certainly back in 1920/1 at the time of the London Treaty, no one could have imagined or even prophesized that what secreting was undertaken then would have been totally visible just 40 years or so later.

As for exactly how to get at it, is not so easy. All major sites are booby trapped, some more than twice, whereby only a few are still knowledgeable of the booby trap mechanisms. Opened incorrectly and lives will be lost, but there again what do the masters care about a few lives.

Certainly the rogue element of the CIA don’t care when they force Southern Filipinos to open depositories and remove the assets, then they murder then all (Dead people don’t speak) and conveniently state in the press that in fierce fighting with rebels in the South of the Philippines, …X… number of rebels, indicating Abu Sayef, Islam Extremists, and so on, were killed.

There is however more to it than that. The whereabouts of these treasures is known and recorded, to which only a few people have access. Kings, Queens, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Senior Military Intell Officers, and Head of any Country’s central Bank will all be aware of what treasures are secreted away within their National borders. All the above may not know exactly where the treasures are secreted, but that is not all that relevant.

What is relevant is the fact that these very people also know that their country is a party and a signatory to the numerous international treaties that surround these treasures. They will know the purpose as to why they are secreted away. They will know their responsibilities, liabilities and obligations under those treaties, yet they ignore all of this in its totality and plunder these treasures for their own pockets and advantage.

Now I will explain an issue which every person in this world should be aware of. Where assets / treasures are secreted in any country, it is the King, Queen, President, Prime Minister, who are legally responsible for and on behalf of their country and the people of their country to protect, secure, and hold safe, all such assets / treasures held in the depositories situated in their country.

For this duty there is a Custodian Fee payable to the country. However, where assets / treasures are plundered, stolen, or similar, from any such depository, the Country, Government and the People are held responsible under a default clause, whereby the Custodian Fee is forfeited in totality and used to replace the missing assets / treasures on a like for like basis. If the plundered assets / treasures hold a total value in excess of the value of the forfeited Custodian Fee then the Country, Government, People are held liable for the balance payable, whatever that figure / value shall be.

This is what the people of various countries do not realize or understand. They trust their Government, or the people whom they elected to Government, not realizing that those very people are the ones who are, or will be, undertaking the plundering and actually creating more debt for the country and its people. More debt means more taxes, more taxes mean that more people are not able to pay, more failures to pay debt brings more people nearing the poverty line, or hitting poverty level, and so it goes, on and on in a vicious cycle of deceit from one year to the next.

Even those who have actually plundered the assets / treasures, when caught, must return the assets / treasures together with applicable interest charges on same. If they have sold the assets / treasures then they will be liable for the full cost of replacement on a like for like basis plus all interest.

In reality, there are no winners from theft or plunder, only losers eventually. On the other side of the coin, had these assets / treasures been utilized correctly since 1945 there would be no losers only winners.

Now let us look at the thieving Politicians, Government Officials, Senior Military personnel and others who may be involved in such plundering. All are self-centred, greedy people / individuals who care only for themselves, their status, and the personal wealth. They do not care one cent about the people. Yes, they give a little here and there, but take an awful lot for themselves which the people haven’t got a clue about.

I can honestly state, from a great number of years experience, that the majority of Governments of the world are corrupt. Some are more corrupt than others, some are so corrupt it is indescribable, but corruption is corruption no matter to what extent, just as theft is theft. Someone is illegally taking from others that which they are not entitled to take, and possibly jeopardizing the livelihood of those they have taken from. That has been the nature of mankind for thousands of years and I doubt it will ever change. However, a few centuries ago such thieves were arrested, banished from their country and shipped halfway around the world. Others were hanged without trial. Others just had their hands, arms or legs cut off in some of the most brutal ways imaginable.

Today, the criminals get Diplomatic or Political immunity. They receive appointments, when they have completed their term in office, which no self-respecting person would ever get. They conjure up the laws and give themselves carte-blanche protection by exemptions and exceptions to such laws. Their lives are just a façade covering their real intentions and criminal activities, and the people can not even see through it, or see it for what it is worth.

“Now I want to address this part toward this so called Chinese King and any other so called royalty that claims to have vaulted treasures and gold, since you all are so self serving (aholes imo) why do you all hoard this stuff??? What good is it if you can't use it to build a castle out of it, etc. you know just gloat and live all over it, make everything out of gold and gems ? I mean if you have all these real treasures of old, not just gold what good is it in a bunker where you can look, touch, and use these things....ok maybe your afraid to break some of it....but I know by the way you people are with your gotta own the world mentality that you would at least want it in a museum with your name on the plate as the owner so you can rub it in the faces of everyone on earth, gloat over the glory like you already all do now...you know like these POS so called kings and queens do right now, ie. like the q of England”.

Maybe a few are tending to gloat over at, but the majority is not. This is the very reason why these Royal Families and even Nations assented to the numerous treaties that agreed to combine all these treasures and ensure that they were utilized for the benefit of the world and its people.

Initially, the use was restricted to Governments being the elected representatives of the people. Unfortunately, the TTTGC were deliberately selective in which Governments could benefit from these combined Assets / treasures. Selective in the sense that the TTTGC deliberately failed to inform the Nations of the World as to their “Legal Rights” to financial assistance from these combined assets / treasures. How corrupt and deceitful can the powerful Western Nations be?

Ultimately, that all changed in January 1995, when the TTTGC were effectively “Sacked” from their position and everything legally bestowed upon one single person, as Legal Heir, Owner and Sole Arbiter. Formerly appointed as the International Treasury Controller for the administration, management and control of these assets / treasures, under numerous directives to ensure that these assets / treasures were actually utilized for their purpose and intent, being the Benefit of ALL Nations and People of the World.

Contrary to what Striderus believes, or states, a great many treasures of the World, that is treasures from long ago, are in fact displayed in Museums and the said museums do have access to these treasures, through a specific route, so that displays can be changed from time to time. Whether we like to believe it or not, this is beneficial to the people of the world in an educational form, displaying and informing the people of our history in real practical form rather than by books which can very often distort the truth.

Whether people visit museums as a form of educational leisure activity is up to them, but it is their if they want to.

Also contrary to what Striderus states, is the fact that the Royal Families / Nations have very little control, if any, over these assets / treasures, so what is there to gloat about …….. NOTHING. In fact there is far more concern by the Royal Families than people can imagine regarding these assets / treasures. Concern in the sense that Governments, groups, secret societies, even the TTTGC, have continuously failed to apply these assets / treasures correctly which has led to increased poverty around the world, greater “Class” divide between rich and poor, an increase in civil strife and war, a substantial increase in the strength of the power bases around the world, a substantial increase in the pressure exerted upon weaker countries to adopt and apply ideologies that are alien to them, and so on.

NO, we are not part of any of these so-called elitist, secret societies, political groupings that I have referred to. Never have been and never will be. In fact we are the opposite of that. We are trying to assist every single Nation of this world and the people of this world to bring about a more stable, equal society by utilizing these assets / treasures, as we are directed, for the beneficial interest of ALL Nations of the World and ALL people of the World.

Given what we have with the assets / treasures, and given our directives, we could eliminate poverty completely, provide sustainable employment for all, introduce technologies (which have previously been “back-shelved” by the International conglomerates) that would be beneficial (environment, energy, etc) to the world, reduce that ever increasing “class” divide, bring stability and equally back to the world’s society, and much, much more, given the right circumstances of cooperation from the various governments..

“but having treasures like what have been talked about in these bunkers is even a bigger waste”.

NOT SO. These treasures are used, not in physical form, but by virtue of Bankable Instruments, just in the same way as you might desire to mortgage your own home. You do not take your house foundations, land, etc into the bank when you want a mortgage, whereby they deposit same into their vaults and give you money against your assets.

Your house, foundations, land are your assets of which transactions on or with same are conducted in paper form only. You would look a little bit ridiculous having a low loader carrying your house and its foundations, plus a enormous pile of earth and probably a few trees and shrubs, maybe with a few flowers or vegetables thrown in, parked outside a bank. I think we ought to make it several low loaders to accommodate everything. Come on Striderus, see sense, it is just not practical, is it.

“hide these treasures if they're even real, which I have many reasons to believe, they do NOT exist”.

They really do exist, and far more than anyone can imagine. They are all over the world, secreted away in some of the most inhospitable places you could imagine. The problem is the fact that the People have never been informed of reality, and therefore, quite understandable, those who don’t see don’t believe, and that is exactly what the elitists want you to believe, so that you are completely unaware of what they are up to.

“elites would have nothing to gloat about...”

Talk about “Gloating”. I bet you often stand outside your own home, or new car, and have a little “gloat” to yourself as to how proud you are in having such a nice home and car. That is a natural characteristic of Human Beings, no matter what their status is. Even we “Gloat” from time to time, because we are proud at achieving a difficult transaction and we can now see these assets / treasures being utilized for the benefit of people. Why shouldn’t we, because we are proud to have achieved it and proud of our capabilities, but we do not “Gloat” over the assets / treasures. To us they are a means to an end, and that is all they are.

“To me having fine things that you can't enjoy, use, look at, etc. stuffed in a bunker hidden is PATHETIC”.

If you only realize the fact that these treasures have been the catalyst, over many centuries, of many wars, civil conflict, you would understand why there is a need to secrete them away from the hands of the Elitist groups, secret societies, war mongers, power crazy people, greedy and corrupt politicians, and so on. Many of these people, if not all, still fervently believe that possession is 9/10’ths of the law. To have a piece of paper from the bank which in figure terms states that you are a billionaire is insufficient for these people (mad men). Possession gives them, or would give them, power beyond anyone’s dreams. It is no different from the corrupt and greedy bankers who having taken Taxpayers money to “prop up” their failing corporations, which are failing because of their immense bad management; then take enormous bonuses. The company (the Bank) means nothing to them. What is more important is their personal gain, wealth, status, and so on. To have 3 or 4 luxury homes, several luxury cars, plus other luxuries that they can sit and gloat over, is totally different to gloating over something that you as a person has worked hard to achieve, spent enormous hours building up, worked beyond normal human endurance, and have achieved to your own self satisfaction.

The Royal Families / Nations can not gloat over something they do not have or have control over. The Elitists, secret societies, war mongers, power crazy people, etc do “GLOAT” and are “PATHETIC” because what they have achieved has been achieved through illegal and criminal actions against others.

“What good is it to extract the gold and other gems and metals from the earth only to put them all into a vault and do nothing with them except to say they're yours....what a bunch of mental rejects”

Because it can be used as Collateral, or to build other things which can be used as Collateral. Your own home or car was built from things extracted from the earth, whether wood or clay, cement, to build your home. Iron Ore or Bauxite to build your car, oil to build parts of your fixtures and fittings, all of which you can “Gloat” over and say that’s mine, obtained through your own hard work.

The Royal Families / Nations do not even have that opportunity because it is not their’s in legal terms, as it belongs to the World and its people. Therefore “Mental Rejects” can only be used to identify the criminals and crooks of the world’s society who are plundering these assets for their own purpose, self-centred attitude, and greed.

“Maybe these people should be looked in their treasure vaults and the keys thrown away, doors buried so they can hug and kiss their treasures for eternity ! since that is all they care about.....at least that way they can enjoy it forever!”.

In one way I don’t think you really are aware of what you are stating here or the inferences attached to the statement, but in another way, depending upon how you interpret the word “People” I tend to agree.

The crooks, criminals, war mongers, whether secret societies, politicians, or otherwise should be treated in exactly the same way as they have treated others, both presently and in the past.

Let me explain and you will understand what I am referring to.

Over the years, during the times that these treasures were secreted, or stolen, plundered and hidden away from sight, many people (Hundreds of thousands) have died. You may ask how and why. I will explain which refers mainly to the stolen, plundered assets.

As you can probably imagine, to steal, move, and secret away such assets, requires multitudes of man power and a lot of organization. After completing their task that manpower was deliberately buried with the assets to prevent those involved from talking. Yes, buried alive to die a forced death of suffering, malnutrition, suffocation, and even in explosions used to seal these illegal depositories. How barbaric and insane can people be, all because of greed and their quest for power?

It has happened all over the world, implemented by corrupt and dangerous Politicians, Secret Service Agents, Senior Military Personnel, and so on. Yes, I agree, lock them in their illegal vaults, throw away the keys, and let them die in the same manner that they forced others to die; for their wanton greed and quest for power.

There is one good thing that has arisen from all of this, which is, that we have agreed that a Foundation will be established to financially assist the families of all those persons who died unnecessarily at the hands of the corrupt and dangerous Politicians, Secret Service Agents, Senior Military Personnel, and so on.

When these illegal depositories are eventually exposed and opened, any bodies will be removed and every effort will be made to identify the person’s remains. Once identified, the families will be located and they will be entitled to financial assistance they may require, from the Foundation. We can’t bring back their loved ones, but at least we can help in other ways to lesson the burden that may have been placed upon them from the absence of the “Wage Earner” of the family.

Striderus, you should not class all people in the same group as the real crooks, criminals, etc. There are many good ones amongst us, far more so than the bad ones. Additionally, do not be misled by the fact that you haven’t seen these assets / treasures. Many have and can swear to that fact, plus produce photographs and videos of same. Your views, opinions, statements will hurt many people who have had family members murdered because of these assets / treasures, or whose sons, fathers have been sent to fight on the front lines in a war in which these assets / treasures were the catalyst.

I am sure that you did not intend for your words to be interpreted in such a manner, or to actually insult or be critical of the affected people, or even of our selves as Controllers, Administrators, Managers of these assets / treasures, but do not apologize as apologies are not necessary. Please be a little more careful as I have seen and read similar comments over numerous years which have actually hurt many people because they felt classified as crooks, thieves, criminals, when they in fact they were the sufferers and the losers.

If you want to know more, fully read our Website ( http://www.unoitc.org/ ) because contrary to your views and opinions, this is far more real than one can ever imagine.

At that juncture I will finish what again is a long response, but necessary to ensure that people really understand the situation, and understand just who is responsible for the massive plundering, etc.

Regards

WHISTLEBLOWER.

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